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British Muslims Greet Pope Benedict XVI

More love from our friends at the "Muslims Against Crusades" website.

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Our mooslim friends may hate the West, but they sure don't mind wearing western clothes, using western cell phones, using western microphones and speakers, and using western video cameras. The Great Satan may be evil, but apparently he has cool toys.

But they did invent chess...

"Burn, burn, Benedict! Burn, burn, Benedict!"

"Benedict, Benedict, watch your back! Islam is coming back!"

These sound like terrorist threats to me.

So - those of you who believe that offering these sweet people lots of money to leave amounts to persecution, closing their mosques is an outrage, and banning their Koran is unthinkable, I'm open to better ideas. Let's hear 'em.

Does a socialized medical system prevent the British from understanding that when an alien species invades an organism, the only way to save the host is to forcibly expel the parasite?

Wow.

A couple of year ago, I accompanied my mother on a trip to Turkey. On two or three occasions, we suddenly found ourselves in the midst of seemingly spontaneous political demonstrations of quite astonishing power and intensity.

I was used to "student protests" from my days at Berkeley & Michigan, but this was something entirely new. This was not spoilt children acting out. This was real, and scary, and, I must admit, rather intoxicating.

This video brings it all back to me.

The First Crusade was not called until after Five Centuries of Jihad against pacific Christians. (By then we Christians were fast running out of cheeks to turn).

And The Crusades were directed against liberating the Holy Land and land that had been stolen from Christians. The Crusades were not directed against Arabia or Arab lands.

For those with eyes to see, it is clear that Islam is incompatible with Christianity and Liberty and those who continue to insist that Islam is misunderstood by its adherents will have blood on their hands when the shooting begins.

Any Catholic who has read, not only the historical orthopraxis of the dreadful cult of Mohammed, but also, "Trial, Tribulation, and Triumph," by Desmond A. Birch, understands that, in the future, Muslims will cause civil wars in Italy, France, and England.

A Great Saint Pope will be elected who will be instrumental in France choosing a Great King and, together, they will defeat the Muslims, Prussians, and The Russians near Cologne and the Prussians and Russians will retreat to Westphalia where they, miraculously, will suffer their final defeat.

The sign of a great chastisement will be when civil war breaks out in France and Italy at almost the same time.

But, the multicultural, secular west, crazed by the Principle of Non-Discrimination (Mr. Auster's phrase) sees no way we in America can prevent muslims from moving her and setting up their Mosques.

The Prime Minister of Turkey,Recep Tayyip Erdogan, was just being honest when he said; The mosques are our barracks, the domes our helmets, the minarets our bayonets and the faithful our soldiers

And the former statesman, Enoch Powell, could have been describing muslims moving into the west when he made this great observation:

The supreme function of statesmanship is to provide against preventable evils. In seeking to do so, it encounters obstacles which are deeply rooted in human nature.

One is that by the very order of things such evils are not demonstrable until they have occurred: at each stage in their onset there is room for doubt and for dispute whether they be real or imaginary. By the same token, they attract little attention in comparison with current troubles, which are both indisputable and pressing: whence the besetting temptation of all politics to concern itself with the immediate present at the expense of the future.

Above all, people are disposed to mistake predicting troubles for causing troubles and even for desiring troubles: "If only," they love to think, "if only people wouldn't talk about it, it probably wouldn't happen."

Perhaps this habit goes back to the primitive belief that the word and the thing, the name and the object, are identical.
At all events, the discussion of future grave but, with effort now, avoidable evils is the most unpopular and at the same time the most necessary occupation for the politician. Those who knowingly shirk it deserve, and not infrequently receive, the curses of those who come after.

But they did invent chess...

No, c matt, they didn't.

There are two theories about the origins of the chess.
The first has it that a form of chess, "chaturanga", was played in India about 6th century and the other that it under the name of "xianggi" originated in China much earlier.
Arabs invented Islam and lot of legends about Arabs inventing things. Not much more than that.

"Religion of peace" huh?

Where are all the "tolerance" proponents when there's a real threat afoot?

Yet several men were arrested in the UK simply for watching a Koran burning on Youtube in a British pub.

Can't have anybody inciting hatred now, can we?

The supreme function of statesmanship is to provide against preventable evils. In seeking to do so, it encounters obstacles which are deeply rooted in human nature.

One is that by the very order of things such evils are not demonstrable until they have occurred: at each stage in their onset there is room for doubt and for dispute whether they be real or imaginary. By the same token, they attract little attention in comparison with current troubles, which are both indisputable and pressing: whence the besetting temptation of all politics to concern itself with the immediate present at the expense of the future.

Above all, people are disposed to mistake predicting troubles for causing troubles and even for desiring troubles: "If only," they love to think, "if only people wouldn't talk about it, it probably wouldn't happen."

Perhaps this habit goes back to the primitive belief that the word and the thing, the name and the object, are identical.
At all events, the discussion of future grave but, with effort now, avoidable evils is the most unpopular and at the same time the most necessary occupation for the politician. Those who knowingly shirk it deserve, and not infrequently receive, the curses of those who come after.

Great quote by Enoch Powell, I am not Spartacus. (BTW, I'd sure like it better if you chose another handle. I'm not Spartacus either, and neither is anyone else around here!) Just in case anyone missed this.

In Spe Salvi, The Holy Father writes, Jesus was not Spartacus, so, as a Christian Catholic (one who follows Jesus in the Church He established), I am not Spartacus is defensible.

That's my wise-ass response.

However,I will change my S/N even though I have used it for a long time and I will change it because you made a polite request and I admire you.

From now on, I'll use Vermont Crank

Thanks be to God, I was born into a Catholic family in that beautiful state and that is where, bred into my bones, I was learnt the Baltimore Catechism and Liberty.

By the way, more on that story. My AP headline today said, "UK Police Arrest Six in Suspected Koran Burning." Because "stirring racial hatred" is illegal in the UK, of course.

Good to know the UK is on the ball about stopping hatred, incitement to violence, all that. The above videos, of course, are irrelevant.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100923/ap_on_re_eu/eu_britain_quran_burning

I think the world would be a better place with more Vermont cranks like you.

So I guess they invented chess like Al Gore invented the internet.

Thank-you, Mr. Cella. That was very kind.

I spend most of my time here lurking and trying to learn from y'all but there are a few things that we Vermont Cranks (educated beyond our intelligence as the old Vt. saying goes)are stone cold certain of - such as Islam and its nature.

I admire the writers here and I congratulate them on their position vis a vis Islam.

Y'all are wide awake.

I'm sure Mayor Bloomberg can explain all this, as can those who would plop a mosque on Ground Zero, while in a momentary change, talk of a completely unhindered right to construction & property.
Unlike those poor saps, non-muslims, who were deprived of their very homes in the supreme court, New London, eminent domain case.
Rule of thumb, if it's destructive of the remnants of the West, it's got to be good.


I'm sure Mayor Bloomberg can explain all this, as can those who would plop a mosque on Ground Zero, while in a momentary change, talk of a completely unhindered right to construction & property.
Unlike those poor saps, non-muslims, who were deprived of their very homes in the supreme court, New London, eminent domain case.
Rule of thumb, if it's destructive of the remnants of the West, it's got to be good.


I hope to God that the British revert to the Catholic faith soon, so they'll have a reason to kick these violent morons back to the hellholes that they came from! Hint to the British: get rid of that stupid law that forbids a Catholic monarch. You need one to lead a crusade against the Muslims and other heretics like Queen Isabella of Spain did!

Steve,

They'd need a monarch that has more authority than just being the "Official Embarrassment of the Realm."

Mike, the Queen isn't so much an embarassment, but her idiotic son Chucky sure is. What a tree-hugger!

The West won't find the moxie to repel the Muslim threat without finding the moxie to inculcate some virtues in the schools and in public life: like chastity and modesty, humility and charity. I hate to say it, but I find it difficult to even imagine a society that reverts to public morals while watching TV, since TV makes immorality so easy. And makes passivity almost impossible to overcome.

Pray to learn to be a good martyr, before you are made to be a real one.

There is some significant "production" work on this video: what is all the singing in the background throughout the entire video? I cannot make out any of it, is it a Muslim chant? It actually sounds like latin chant. What gives?

The arrival of the Pope in his "Popemobile" at 8:43 in this video is - what?

Pathetic? Grotesque?

It's for all the world like a prisoner being led in the tumbril to his execution.

It actually sounds like latin chant. What gives?

Not Gregorian Latin chant, but it does resemble Byzantine chant.

It's for all the world like a prisoner being led in the tumbril to his execution.

Yes, another triumph of modernity. That these would-be assassins were permitted to get so close to the Holy Father is truly bizarre.


Just do a simple thought experiment. Suppose the roles were reversed and it was Christians who were baying for the blood of a prominent Muslim cleric, say Quarwadi or Sistani, what would be the expected result? Do you think that any Christian church in the MidEast or Pakistan or perhaps even India would be safe? This is why I can never take the bleatings of the kumbaya Catholics seriously.


That these would-be assassins were permitted to get so close to the Holy Father is truly bizarre.

It is a salutory reminder to the Holy Father that all too many Muslims do not partake of the nostrum compounded of the "three Abrahamic faiths".

I shared this Jeff thank you. Cranks would be the immediate conclusion except that secularists are in positions of power and too weak and useless to stand up to them. So ... conclusion has to be "they're the camel's nose" for England at least.

However,I will change my S/N even though I have used it for a long time and I will change it because you made a polite request and I admire you.

From now on, I'll use Vermont Crank

Thank you, Vermont Crank. Going from four words to two words, and from three spaces to one - with both words capitalized! - is a big help to a mossback two-finger keyboarder like me.

Vermont Crank, I too would like to thank you for your kind accommodation of Jeff's request. It really is a help to be able to type a name easily.

Dear Tony. You're welcome. I thought about using the name The Bride calls me but this site appears to avoid vulgarity.

personally, I thought "I am not Spartacus" was a pretty clever handle.

If anyone has better hearing than mine and the time to transcribe all the chants and "exhortations" in this video, it would be, I think, very useful. So far, in addition to the threats Jeff mentioned above (and the "watch your back" threat comes up repeatedly throughout the video), there is also the express statement that all who insult Mohammed "deserve capital punishment."

To see these obviously threatening men screaming about how God has no children also reminded me of a quotation from Chesterton, from Orthodoxy:

For to us Trinitarians (if I may say it with reverence)–to us God Himself is a society. It is indeed a fathomless mystery of theology, and even if I were theologian enough to deal with it directly, it would not be relevant to do so here. Suffice it to say here that this triple enigma is as comforting as wine and open as an English fireside; that this thing that bewilders the intellect utterly quiets the heart: but out of the desert, from the dry places and, the dreadful suns, come the cruel children of the lonely God; the real Unitarians who with scimitar in hand have laid waste the world. For it is not well for God to be alone.

Even if England returned to Catholicism, it wouldn't mean much for a few reasons. Catholicism isn't doing so hot on the continent and it isn't doing so hot against Islam there either. And second, a good many Catholics simply flout their church's moral and theological teaching in major areas like contraception and tranubstantiation. The only thing that could make such a situation change is a change in discipline. Getting rid of the LEM's wouldn't hurt either.

When prominant politicians and average lay people can receive a minor excommunication for advocating for abortion, then a Catholic England might mean something. Until, it means really nothing much at all.

On the other hand, Islam is a brittle faith. Most Muslims are like Christmass and Easter Catholics or Protestants. If the state sanction of fear of familial or independent reprisal were lifted, they'd just melt away into the surrounding secularism within a generation.

The fact is that we cannot look to anyone else to do the work for us. We need as individuals to flood local Muslim mosques with (quality) apologetic literature and provide alternative communities (with services) to people's re-locating to the US.

Dear All,

An acquaintance informed me of this website and the following:

Someone above attributed to a book of mine, 'Trial, Tribulation & Triumph' the thought that;

"Any Catholic who has read, not only the historical orthopraxis of the dreadful cult of Mohammed, but also, "Trial, Tribulation, and Triumph," by Desmond A. Birch, understands that, in the future, Muslims will cause civil wars in Italy, France, and England."

I appreciate the mention, however, I did not state that the followers of Islam/Muslims would be the cause of civil wars in Italy, France and England.

What I wrote was that a great number of Canonized Saints, Blessed, & Venerable have prophesied that at appoximately the same time in the future, Italy, France and England would go through devastating civil wars - essentially a civil war between those who love the God of the Christians and those who don't.

Intertwined in that mixture, is the prophecy that around the same time, Islam will invade Western Europe for the 3rd time in history. This time unlike in their previous two historic invasions - Islam will be crushed permanently, and that will be the end of Islam as any kind of major religion in the world.

If anyone wishes to discuss this with me further, you can email me at dbirch41@msn.com. I'm assuming from your webwsite that most of you are from the UK. I live in the U.S. God bless you.

Desmond A. Birch

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